Shopping Basket
Your Basket is Empty
There was an error with PayPalClick here to try again
CelebrateThank you for your business!You should receive an order confirmation from Paypal shortly.Exit Shopping Basket

Montauk United

Providing Montauk Residents a Means to Speak and Act as One!


October Report - Airport Noise

Posted by joan on 31 October, 2015 at 14:40

Tom Bogdan

The October Concerned Citizens of Montauk’s “Meet the Candidates Debate”, produced interesting and definitive remarks by all candidates, but in regard to the mission of Montauk United, especially so by the current Supervisor L. Cantwell. When asked what was the most important Montauk issue (what was at the top of the list of his Montauk “to fix” objectives if re-elected) the Supervisor’s choice was late night mayhem, noise and bad behavior. This is not only admirable but in direct support of the most important objectives of MONTAUK UNITED. As such, we wish him well in the coming election.

The Supervisor’s thoughts and comments on another important issue were less clear. The question concerned the possible and potential negative repercussions to Montauk if the Town of East Hampton wins its current legal battle concerning East Hampton airport limitations on “noisy aircraft (a term defining unacceptable noise levels usually created, but not limited to, rotary wing aircraft: ie. Commuter helicopters). If the town is victorious there is a serious possibility that Montauk airport may become a major alternate site employed by this type of air craft. If this does occur, the Supervisor was queried, what actions would be taken by the Town Board to protect Montauk from the more than 4,000 helicopter landings logged into E.H. airport this past season. Many Montauk citizens believe this to be a highly likely scenario thereby causing incredible long term harm to our social, environmental and economic wellbeing. The reasoning goes that if the Town of East Hampton is victorious in its court battle these flights are not just going to go away. They will seek out and use other alternate local airports such as West Hampton, South Hampton and Montauk. There is an excellent argument the Montauk airport would be, by far, the preferred choice due to its proximity to East Hampton coupled with Montauk to East Hampton highway transit being against prevailing summer time traffic. There also are substantial rumors the helicopter companies are already designing fly/limo. Montauk packages in which reserved private ground transportation would be available at the Montauk airport in order to continue customer travel plans to and from their East Hampton final destination.

The Supervisor’s reply to the question was that, if indeed, the litigation was successful, and he believes it will be, the Town Board would closely watch the situation and if the above projected Montauk problems did occur they would move rapidly to correct the situation. He also replied that this past summer’s statistics on air craft landings in Montauk did not support any such theories of increased traffic at the Montauk airport.

The problem with this statement, of course, is the statistics do not reflect the above all important legal issue which is currently being litigated and has the power and potential to change the entire Montauk airport usage situation.

However, the Supervisor’s remarks were all well and good, and it is apparent that he and the Board are, more or less, serious and sincere in their concern for Montauk. But the real question, the question that was neither addressed or even recognized was WHAT REALLY CAN BE DONE TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM IF IT INDEED OCCURS? Does a viable solution even exist? Even with the best of intentions, what can the Town Board effectively do to correct the enormous potential damage to Montauk. Montauk airport is a privately held corporation and not beholden to any form of E.H. Town administrative influence. The Montauk airport has also accepted F.A.A. (Federal Aviation Administration) funding and is obliged to follow “open sky“ directives favoring this “noisy “ aircraft category. Any type of share-the-burden-negotiation between Montauk and East Hampton airports is more than unlikely since the East Hampton citizen groups who have spent years attempting to rid themselves of their local issue makes compromise politically impossible.

Keep this in mind. Records show there are only approximately 600 E.H. Town residents who account for all the complaints sent to the Town Board regarding noise at the East Hampton airport. This number represents less than 3% of the entire East Hampton Town population. If the Town Board litigation is successful and Montauk airport does become the favored alternate route, the helicopters are likely to follow three flight patterns. The aircraft will approach Montauk along the ocean coast route, the Fort Pond transit or the Block Island Sound/Gin Beach route. These flight patterns (up to 4000 a summer) have the potential of negatively affecting almost 100% of the local Montauk population of 3500 citizens and untold thousands of vacationing summer residents and guests. Thousands of people suffering an unsolvable and intolerable problem inherited from less than 3% of the East Hampton Town population.

Remember this. The following are the essential factors which enabled East Hampton to move forward on their anti -helicopter campaign:

1: Town ownership of the airport facility.

2: Severance from F.A.A. influence through culmination of all existing contracts.

3: A highly dedicated, organized and well-funded citizen action group.

4: Local political acknowledgment and enthusiastic support by the Town Board.

5. A multimillion dollar law suit.

If the helicopters do come to Montauk. If we are indeed faced with this inherited East Hampton problem, which of the above factors do you believe the citizens of Montauk will be able to employ as a defense? The time to face this issue is now, before an impossible, unsolvable situation presents itself and Montauk finds itself, notwithstanding all the kind and concerned political wishes and good intentions in the world, the victim.

MONTAUK UNITED strongly invites comments, statements and ideas on the above.

At the November Montauk Citizen’s Advisory meeting, MONTAUK UNITED will review suggestions and ideas obtained through computer communication with similar cities and towns in regard to a 2016 Town zero tolerance plan to combat undesirable public conduct. The information also includes specific and detailed information from two MONTAUK UNITED volunteers with extensive law enforcement experience in city and county law enforcement. The data will be presented both at the CAC and the November Town Board meeting as a recommendation for 2016 deployment. Details will be published in the November MONTAUK UNITED newsletter.

MONTAUK UNITED has applied, under the FREEDOM OF INFORMATION Act, for a complete list of all property owners within the hamlet of Montauk. The list will be employed to reach out to over 5,400 Montauk property owners in the form of a comprehensive questionnaire dealing with Montauk quality- of- life and socially important issues. The purpose of the program is to have, for the first time in Montauk history, a source of public information dealing with the popularity, acceptance or rejection of important and relevant Montauk social issues that are supported by factual statistical data. The questionnaire will be professionally designed with both specific and opened ended questions. Both the CAC, the Town Board and other organizations will be invited to participate in terms of specific queries relating to their areas of interest. An April/May 2016 mailing is planned.

Volunteers to help in the mailing are eagerly sought.

This report is a first in a series of communications to MONTAUK UNITED members on present and up-coming projects fulfilling the goals and objectives of our organization. We enthusiastically invite any and all comment, in-put and ideas from MONTAUK UNITED members on any subject of interest.


Categories: Member Reports

Post a Comment


Oops, you forgot something.


The words you entered did not match the given text. Please try again.

Already a member? Sign In


Reply kd shoes
8:45 on 30 May, 2023 
I precisely desired to thank you so much yet again. I'm not certain the things I might have made to happen in the absence of those thoughts discussed by you regarding this area of interest. It absolutely was a daunting situation in my circumstances, however , viewing the very expert technique you dealt with that forced me to jump with delight. Now i'm thankful for the service and thus trust you really know what a great job you are undertaking instructing most people through your websites. More than likely you haven't come across all of us.
kd shoes
Reply supreme
8:15 on 30 May, 2023 
I and also my friends have already been reading the great pointers found on your web page and all of a sudden I got a terrible suspicion I had not expressed respect to the blog owner for them. Those boys ended up for that reason very interested to see them and already have definitely been taking pleasure in them. Thanks for genuinely very considerate and then for deciding upon this kind of really good guides most people are really desperate to understand about. Our sincere regret for not expressing gratitude to sooner.
Reply bape sta
5:51 on 30 May, 2023 
Thanks for all of your work on this web site. My niece really loves engaging in investigations and it's really easy to see why. My partner and i hear all concerning the lively means you render very important suggestions through your web site and therefore boost participation from some other people on the area while our favorite daughter is undoubtedly understanding a whole lot. Have fun with the rest of the new year. You have been conducting a useful job.
bape sta
Reply golden goose superstar
5:18 on 30 May, 2023 
I simply wanted to thank you so much yet again. I am not sure the things that I would have achieved without the type of solutions discussed by you over that area. It was before a very difficult condition in my opinion, however , seeing a new well-written avenue you solved it made me to jump for fulfillment. Now i'm grateful for the support and thus hope you find out what an amazing job you're doing training many people thru your blog. I know that you haven't got to know all of us.
golden goose superstar
Reply air jordan shoes
2:27 on 30 May, 2023 
I in addition to my friends appeared to be examining the great hints from the blog while at once got a terrible suspicion I had not thanked the blog owner for them. My young men came very interested to study them and now have in fact been tapping into those things. Thanks for really being well helpful and then for obtaining some quality subjects most people are really wanting to be aware of. Our sincere regret for not saying thanks to you earlier.
air jordan shoes
Reply hermes outlet
1:22 on 30 May, 2023 
My spouse and i got very relieved that Chris could finish up his studies through the entire precious recommendations he gained from your blog. It is now and again perplexing just to continually be releasing information which some other people may have been trying to sell. And we also consider we now have the writer to give thanks to because of that. All the illustrations you've made, the easy site navigation, the friendships you can help instill - it is many fantastic, and it's leading our son and us consider that the concept is amusing, which is certainly quite essential. Thank you for all the pieces!
hermes outlet
Reply fear of god hoodie
0:48 on 30 May, 2023 
I am only commenting to make you understand of the really good discovery my wife's princess experienced visiting your web site. She noticed a good number of things, which include how it is like to have an amazing coaching mindset to get the mediocre ones very easily fully understand specific tortuous things. You actually did more than her desires. I appreciate you for providing such informative, healthy, educational and as well as unique tips about your topic to Kate.
fear of god hoodie
Reply nike dunks
22:14 on 29 May, 2023 
I actually wanted to send a small message in order to appreciate you for those pleasant tips you are placing at this website. My time-consuming internet investigation has at the end been recognized with sensible content to share with my pals. I 'd tell you that many of us site visitors actually are undeniably fortunate to be in a good website with very many perfect people with very beneficial things. I feel extremely happy to have encountered your entire webpages and look forward to some more fun moments reading here. Thanks once more for everything.
nike dunks
Reply yeezy
20:46 on 29 May, 2023 
I have to show some appreciation to you just for rescuing me from this particular matter. Right after browsing through the world-wide-web and meeting advice that were not beneficial, I believed my life was done. Existing without the approaches to the problems you have fixed by means of your good review is a critical case, as well as ones that would have negatively damaged my entire career if I had not come across your blog post. Your primary ability and kindness in maneuvering almost everything was tremendous. I'm not sure what I would've done if I hadn't discovered such a thing like this. I can also now look forward to my future. Thanks a lot very much for the skilled and amazing help. I won't hesitate to suggest your web page to any individual who wants and needs counselling about this topic.
Reply MaryAveld
19:58 on 29 May, 2023 
online pharmacy worldwide shipping
Reply golden goose outlet
19:44 on 29 May, 2023 
I as well as my friends have been digesting the best hints on your website and then I had a terrible feeling I never expressed respect to the website owner for those secrets. These people came very interested to read all of them and have very much been having fun with these things. Appreciation for simply being well considerate and for figuring out this form of superb themes most people are really desirous to discover. Our honest apologies for not expressing gratitude to sooner.
golden goose outlet
Reply supreme shirt
17:58 on 29 May, 2023 
I precisely had to appreciate you once more. I'm not certain the things that I might have used in the absence of these tricks discussed by you on my subject matter. Certainly was a real fearsome matter in my view, however , noticing the very professional tactic you processed it forced me to weep over happiness. I'm just grateful for your assistance and as well , hope that you know what a powerful job you're carrying out training many people via a web site. I know that you haven't got to know all of us.
supreme shirt
Reply adidas yeezy
17:54 on 29 May, 2023 
My wife and i got absolutely fulfilled Emmanuel managed to finish up his researching through your ideas he got while using the web site. It is now and again perplexing to simply possibly be making a gift of techniques which other people have been making money from. So we do know we've got you to be grateful to for this. Those illustrations you have made, the simple blog navigation, the friendships you can aid to create - it's got all awesome, and it's assisting our son and us believe that the content is fun, and that is seriously indispensable. Many thanks for the whole thing!
adidas yeezy
Reply yeezy
17:44 on 29 May, 2023 
I precisely desired to thank you very much once more. I am not sure the things that I would've followed in the absence of the actual strategies documented by you regarding that subject. It became the traumatic concern in my position, nevertheless discovering your specialized tactic you managed it made me to weep for gladness. I'm happy for your service and hope you are aware of a great job that you are undertaking educating men and women all through your websites. I am sure you haven't encountered all of us.
Reply goyard bag
15:45 on 29 May, 2023 
Thank you a lot for providing individuals with an extremely pleasant possiblity to read articles and blog posts from here. It's usually so kind and as well , jam-packed with a lot of fun for me personally and my office colleagues to search your website on the least three times a week to study the new items you will have. And indeed, I'm so at all times amazed for the brilliant points you give. Some 3 points in this article are easily the finest we've ever had.
goyard bag
Reply golden goose
14:07 on 29 May, 2023 
I am also commenting to make you understand what a wonderful encounter my wife's girl gained viewing yuor web blog. She discovered some things, not to mention what it's like to possess an incredible teaching style to make many people clearly learn about some complex matters. You actually surpassed our desires. Thanks for displaying those effective, trusted, informative and also fun guidance on the topic to Emily.
golden goose
Reply bape hoodie
12:48 on 29 May, 2023 
I must express some appreciation to this writer for rescuing me from this issue. Because of researching through the the web and coming across things that were not beneficial, I was thinking my entire life was done. Living without the presence of solutions to the difficulties you have solved as a result of this article content is a crucial case, as well as the kind that might have badly damaged my entire career if I hadn't noticed your blog. That mastery and kindness in taking care of the whole lot was invaluable. I don't know what I would have done if I hadn't come upon such a point like this. I am able to now look ahead to my future. Thank you very much for the high quality and result oriented guide. I won't think twice to recommend your web site to any individual who should receive recommendations on this topic.
bape hoodie
Reply kyrie irving shoes
12:29 on 29 May, 2023 
I simply wanted to type a brief word to appreciate you for these marvelous strategies you are posting on this website. My incredibly long internet research has now been compensated with beneficial ideas to go over with my classmates and friends. I 'd state that that many of us readers are undoubtedly lucky to be in a great site with many awesome individuals with beneficial techniques. I feel rather privileged to have encountered your web page and look forward to really more amazing times reading here. Thanks a lot again for a lot of things.
kyrie irving shoes
Reply paul george shoes
8:21 on 29 May, 2023 
I together with my guys were digesting the good helpful hints from your web site while at once came up with a horrible feeling I had not expressed respect to the website owner for them. Most of the boys appeared to be so excited to read through them and already have in actuality been making the most of those things. Appreciation for getting really helpful and also for opting for such wonderful information millions of individuals are really eager to know about. Our own honest regret for not saying thanks to earlier.
paul george shoes
Reply yeezy boost 350
8:11 on 29 May, 2023 
Thank you for all your valuable effort on this web site. My niece delights in participating in investigations and it's really easy to understand why. A number of us hear all concerning the powerful ways you give functional ideas by means of the web blog and therefore increase participation from other ones on this topic and our princess is being taught a great deal. Take advantage of the remaining portion of the year. Your conducting a pretty cool job.
yeezy boost 350